Isterivanje đavola ili egzorcizam

#1
Oduvek sam se pitao da li neko zna na koji nacin osobu zaposedne neki demon, pogotovu decu, pa postoje snjimci iz crkvene arhive koji su dokaz ovoga a i da ne pricamo o popularizaciji egzorcizma pri samoj crkvi, pa cak i kroz holivudske filmove. Pa osoba upada u trans na svetim mestima i ponasa se manijakalno i na nivou divlje zveri, dok joj se lice znatno izmeni. Zanima me sta ostali misle o tome?

#2
Ovo sam nasao u Necronomicu


"THE EXORCISM OF THE CROWN OF ANU
The Priest, in time of peril, shall put on the spotless white crown of ANU with the Eightrayed
Seal and stand in the prescribed manner with the Tablets of Calling on his breast
and the copper Dagger of INANNA in his right hand, aloft.
For, it is said, if a man builds a fire, does he no build it in a Pit, that he might not be
harmed thereby? Thus is it true of the UDUGGU we call, for they are like Fire and every
caution must be used lest they consume the magician and his entire generation.
Thus, the Exorcism of ANU
I have put the Starry Crown of Heaven, the potent Disk of ANU on my head
That a kindly Spirit and a kindly Watcher
Like the God that hath made me
May stand at my head always
To life me to favour with the Elder Gods
UDUGGHUL
ALLACHUL
MALLACHUL
MASQIMCHUL
DINGIRCHUL
No Evil Spirit
No Evil Demon
No Evil God
No Evil Fiend
No Hag Demon
No Filth-Eating Demon
No Thieving Demon
No Shadow of the Night
No Shell of the Night
No Mistress of the Demon
No Offspring of the Demon
No Evil Spell
No Enchantment
No Sorcery
NO EVIL IN THE WORLD OR UNDER IT
OVER THE WORLD OR INSIDE THE WORLD
MAY SEIZE ME HERE!
BARRA ANTE MALDA!
BARRA ANGE GE YENE!
ZI DINGIR ANNA KANPA!
ZI DINGIR KIA KANPA!
GAGGAMANNU!


A CONJURATION AGAINST THE SEVEN LIERS-IN-WAIT

They are Seven
They are Seven
In the depths of the ocean, they are Seven
In the shining heavens, they are Seven
They proceed from the ocean depths
They proceed from the hidden retreat
They are neither male nor female
These which stretch themselves out like chains
They have no spouse
They beget not children
They are strangers to charity
They ignore prayers
They scoff at wishes
They are vermin that come forth from the Mountains of MASHU
Enemies of Our Master ENKI
They are the vengeance of the Ancient Ones
Raising up difficulties
Obtaining power through wickedness
The Enemies! The Enemies! The Seven Enemies!
They are Seven!
They are Seven!
They are Seven times Seven!
Spirit of the Sky, Remember! Spirit of the Earth, Remember!



THE EXORCISM BARRA EDINNAZU FOR SPIRITS WHO ATTACK THE
CIRCLE


ZI ANNA KANPA!
ZI KIA KANPA!
GALLU BARRA!
NAMTAR BARRA!
ASHAK BARRA!
GIGIM BARRA!
ALAL BARRA!
TELAL BARRA!
MASQIM BARRA!
UTUQ BARRA!
IDPA BARRA!
LALARTU BARRA!
LALLASSU BARRA!
AKHKHARU BARRA!
URUKKU BARRA!
KIELGALAL BARRA!
LILITU BARRA!
UTUQ XUL EDIN NA ZU!
ALLA XUL EDIN NA ZU!
GIGIM XUL EDIN NA ZU!
MULLA XUL EDIN NA ZU!
DINGIRXUL EDIN NA ZU!
MASQIM XUL EDIN NA ZU!
BARRA!
EDINNAZU!
ZI ANNA KANPA! ZI KIA KANPA!


THE EXORCISM ZI DINGIR


(To be used against any kind of malefick)

ZI DINGIR NNGI E NE KANPA
ZI DINGIR NINGI E NE KANPA
ZI DINGIR ENNUL E NE KANPA
ZI DINGIR NINNUL E NE KANPA
ZI DINGIR ENN KURKUR E NE KANPA
ZI DINGIR NINN KURKUR E NE KANPA
ZI DINGIR N DA SHURRIM MA KANPA
ZI DINGIR NINNDA SHURRIM MA KANPA
ZI DINGIR ENDUL AAZAG GA KANPA
ZI DINGIR NINNDUL AAZAG GA KANPA
ZI DINGIR ENUHDDIL LA KANPA
ZI DINGIR NINN UHDDIL LA KANPA
ZI DINGIR ENMESHIR RAA KANPA
ZI DINGIR NINNME SHIR RAA KANPA
ZI DINGIR ENAA MAA A DINGIR ENLIL LAAGE KANPA
ZI DINGIR NINNA MAA A DINGIR NINNLIL LAAGE KANPA
ZI DINGIR SSISGI GISH MA SAGBA DAA NI IDDA ENNUBALLEMA KANPA
ZI DINGIR BHABBHAR L'GAL DEKUD DINGIR RI ENNEGE KANPA
ZI DINGIR NINNI DUGGAANI DINGIR A NNUNNA IA AN SAGGNNUUNGA
GATHA GAN ENE KANPA!


THE EXORCISM AGAINST AZAG-THOTH AND HIS EMISSARIES


(An image must be made of a throne-chair, and put into the flames of the AGA MASS
SSARATU while chanting the following exorcism.)
Boil! Boil! Burn! Burn!
UTUK XUL TA ARDATA!
Who art thou, whose son?
Who are thou, whose daughter?
What sorcery, what spells, has brought thee here?
May ENKI, the Master of Magicians, free me!
May ASHARILUDU, son of ENKI, free me!
May they bring to nought your vile sorceries!
I chain you!
I bind you!
I deliver you to GIRRA
Lord of the Flames
Who sears, burns, enchains
Of whom even mighty KUTULU has fear!
May GIRRA, the Ever-burning One gives strenght to my arms!
May GIBIL, the Lord of Fire, givepower to my Magick!
Injustice, murder, freezing of the loins,
Rending of the bowels, devouring of the flesh, and madness
In all ways hast thou persecuted me!
Mad God of CHAOS!
May GIRRA free me!
AZAG-THOTH TA ARDATA! IA MARDUK! IA MARDUK! IA ASALLUXI!
You have chosen me for a corpse.
You have delivered me to the Skull.
You have sent Phantoms to haunt me.
You have send vampires to haunt me.
To the wandering Ghosts of the Wastes, have you delivered me.
To the Phantoms of the fallen ruins, have you delivered me.
To the deserts, the wastes, the forbidden lands, you have handed me over.
Open Thy Mouth In Sorceries Against Me No More!
I have handed thine image over
Into the flames of GIBIL!
Burn, Mad Fiend!
Boil, Mad God!
May the Burning GIRRA untie thy knots!
May the Flames of GIBIL untie your cord!
May the Law of the Burning seize your throat!
May the Law of the Burning avenge me!
It is not I, but MARDUK, son of ENKI, Masters in Magick, that commands Thee!
KAKKAMMU! KANPA!


INCANTATION AGAINST THE ANCIENT ONES


(To be recited each year, when the Bear hangs from its Tail in the Heavens)
Destructive Storms and Evil Winds are they
An evil blast, herald of the baneful storm
An evil blast, forerunner of the baneful storm
They are mighty children, Ancient Ones
Heralds of Pestilence
Throne-bearers of NINNKIGAL
They are the flood which rusheth through the Land
Seven Gods of the Broad Heavens
Seven Gods of the Broad Earth
Seven Ancient Ones are They
Seven Gods of Might
Seven Evil Gods
Seven Evil Demons
Seven Demons of Oppression
Seven in Heaven
Seven on Earth
UTUG XUL
ALA XUL
GIDIM XUL
MULLA XUL
DINGIR XUL
MASQIM XUL
ZI ANNA KANPA!
ZI KIA KANPA
ZI DINGIR ENLIL LA LUGAL KURKUR RA GE KANPA!
ZI DINGIR NINLIL LA NIN KURKUR RA GE KANPA!
ZI DINGIR NINIB IBILA ESHARRA GE KANPA!
ZI DINGIR NINNI NIN KURKUR RA GE KANPA!
ZI DINGIR A NUNNA DINGIR GALGALLA E NE KANPA!
ZI DINGIR ANNA KANPA!
ZI DINGIR KIA KANPA!
BABABARARARA ANTE MALDADA!
BABABARARARA ANTE GEGE ENENE!
INCANTATION OF PROTECTION AGAINST THE WORKERS OF THE
ANCIENT ONES
SHAMMASH SHA KASHSHAPIYA KASSHAP TIYA
EPISHYA MUSHTEPISH TIYA!
Kima Tinur khuturshuna l'rim!
Lichulu Lizubu u Littaattuku!
E Pishtashunu Kima meh naadu ina tikhi likhtu!
SHUNU LIMUTUMA ANAKU LU'UBLUYI!
SHUNU LINISHUMA ANAKU LU'UDNIN!
SHUNU LI'IKTISHUMA ANAKU LUUPPATARI!
Tirrama shaluti Sha Kashshapti Sha Ruchi ye
Ipushu
Shupi yi arkhish Uppu yush!
ZI DINGIR GAL KESHSHEBA KANPA!
(This to be recited Seven times in the Circle of Flour before the AGA MASS SSARATU
when it is found that the worshippers of TIAMAT are raising Powers against thee or thy
neighbourhood. Or, it may said when the Great Bear is suspended from his Tail in the
Heavens, which is the Time the baneful worshippers gather for their Rites, and by which
they mark their calendar. The mercy of ANU be upon thee!)


THE EXORCISM AGAINST THE POSSESSING SPIRIT

(This to be said when the body of possessed is distant, or when secrecy must be
maintained. To be performed within thy Circle, before the Watcher.)

The wicked God
The wicked Demon
The Demon of the Desert
The Demon of the Mountain
The Demon of the Sea
The Demon of the Marsh
The wicked Genius
The Enormous Larvae
The wicked Winds
The Demon that seizeth the body
The Demon that rendeth the body
SPIRIT OF THE SKY, REMEMBER!
SPIRIT OF THE EARTH, REMEMBER!
The Demon that seizeth man
The Demon that seizeth man
The GIGIM who worketh Evil
The Spawn of the wicked Demon
SPIRIT OF THE SKY, REMEMBER!
SPIRIT OF THE EARTH, REMEMBER!
He who forges images
He who casts spells
The Evil Angel
The Evil Eye
The Evil Mouth
The Evil Tongue
The Evil Lip
The Most Perfect Sorcery
SPIRIT OF THE SKY, REMEMBER!
SPIRIT OF THE EARTH, REMEMBER!
NINNKIGAL, Spouse of NINNAZU
May she cause him to turn his face toward the Place where she is!
May the wicked Demons depart!
May they seize one another!
May they feed on one another's bones!
SPIRIT OF THE SKY, REMEMBER!
SPIRIT OF THE EARTH, REMEMBER!


THE EXORCISM ANNAKIA

(A conjuration of Heaven and Earth and All Between against the Possessing Spirit, to be
recited seven times over the body of the possessed person till the spirit issueth forth from
his nose and mouth in the form of liquid and fire, like unto green oils. Then the person
shall be whole, and shall sacrifice to INANNA at her Temple. And this must not be
omitted, lest the spirit return to what INANNA has cast off.)
ZI DINGIR ANNA KANPA!
ZI DINGIR KIA KANPA!
ZI DINGIR URUKI KANPA!
ZI DINGIR NEBO KANPA!
ZI DINGIR ISHTAR KANPA!
ZI DINGIR SHAMMASH UDDU KANPA!
ZI DINGIR NERGAL KANPA!
ZI DINGIR MARDUK KANPA!
ZI DINGIR NINIB ADDAR KANPA!
ZI DINGIR IGIGI KANPA!
ZI DINGIR ANNUNNAKIA KANPA
ZI DINGIR ENLIL LA LUGAL KURKURRAGE KANPA!
ZI DINGIR NENLIL LA NINKURKURRAGE KANPA!
ZI DINGIR NINIB IBBILA ESHARRAGE KANPA!
ZI DINGIR NINNINI KURKURRAGE GIGSHI INN BHABBHARAGE KANPA!
ZI DINGIR ANNUNNA DINGIR GALGALLAENEGE KANPA!
KAKAMMU!


(May be chanted while walking around the circumference of the Circle, and sprinkling
the vicinity with sweet water, using a pine cone or golden brush. An image of a Fish may
be at hand, and the incantation pronounced clearly, every word, either whispered softly,
or shouted loudly.)
ISA YA! ISA YA! RI EGA! RI EGA!
BI ESHA BI ESHA! XIYILQA! XIYILQA!
DUPPIRA ATLAKA ISA YA U RI EGA
LIMUTTIKUNU KIMA QUTRI LITILLI SHAMI YE
INA ZUMRI YA ISA YA
INA ZUMRI YA RI EGA
INA ZUMRI YA BI ESHA
INA ZUMRI YA XIYILQA
INA ZUMRI YA DUPPIRA
INA ZUMRI YA ATLAKA
INA ZUMRI YA LA TATARA
INA ZUMRI YA LA TETIXXI YE
INA ZUMRI YA LA TAQARRUBA
INA ZUMRI YA LA TASANIQA
NI YISH SHAMMASH KABTU LU TAMATUNU
NI YISH ENKI BEL GIMRI LU TAMATUNU
NI YISH MARDUK MASHMASH ILANI LU TAMATUNU
NI YISH GISHBAR QAMIKUNU LU TAMATUNU
INA ZUMRI YA LU YU TAPPARRASAMA!
"


Samo slabe (slabe aure) i veoma nestabilne osobe koje su zbog nekih trauma i mjesta na kojima zive izlozene negativnim energijama i astralnim napadima, su podlozne da ih opsjednu astralna bica odnosno demoni. Stoga svima preporucam da sto česće meditiraju i jacaju auru tj. štit, te rade odredjene banishing rituale!!
"Do what thou wilt shal be the whole of the Law." - Al. I. 40.
"Love is the law, love under will" - Al I. 57.
"There is no god but man." - OZ
"Pred njim će popadati divljaci, i neprijatelji njegovi prah će lizati."- 2 Sam. 22:45

#3
Nešto malo ću napisati (čitaj prekucati) o egzorcizmu, samo hoću pre toga da kažem jednu veoma bitnu stvar. Ljudi koji rade egzorcizme su u veoma teškoj poziciji. Simptomi opsednutosti su toliko slični simptomima nekih mentalnih oboljenja da ih je jako teško razlikovoti u nekim slučajevima. Osoba koja treba da uradi egzorcizam najpre treba da utvrdi da nije reč o nekom psihološkom problemu. Ako se takva sumnja dokaže kao tačna, osobu treba podhitno poslati stručnoj osobi jer predstavlja opasnost i za sebe i za okolinu.
93!

"...Their faces and their shapes are terrible and strange.
These devils by my might to angels I will change.
These nameless horrors I address without affright:
On them will I impose my will, the law of light...."-The Magician

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#4
Pondering Star wrote:Ako se takva sumnja dokaže kao tačna, osobu treba podhitno poslati stručnoj osobi jer predstavlja opasnost i za sebe i za okolinu.

Od strane CEGA zaposednut?
KOME poslati?

#5
Poslati psihijatru ili psihologu.

Sad što se zaposedanja tiče, pa ja znam kakav je stav hrišćanstva, obično zaposedaju pali anđeli(čitaj demoni).

Ima u Bibliji jedno od Isusovih čuda koje se tiče egzorcizma.
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#6
Setperibsen wrote:Poslati psihijatru ili psihologu.

Sad što se zaposedanja tiče, pa ja znam kakav je stav hrišćanstva, obično zaposedaju pali anđeli(čitaj demoni).

Ima u Bibliji jedno od Isusovih čuda koje se tiče egzorcizma.

A ne, ne, ne pali anđeli ti nisu isto što i demoni. Oni su malo suptilniji.
To bi trebalo nekog demonologa zamoliti da nam malo pojasni.
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#7
Setperibsen wrote:Poslati psihijatru ili psihologu.

Sad što se zaposedanja tiče, pa ja znam kakav je stav hrišćanstva, obično zaposedaju pali anđeli(čitaj demoni).

Ima u Bibliji jedno od Isusovih čuda koje se tiče egzorcizma.

Onda moras posedovati neku predispoziciju za demonske ili paliandjeoske nasrtaje, ne?
Po nekoj logici, takvi entiteti bi trebali napadati hriscanske duse? Sta se desava ukoliko je neki ''zaposednuti'' pripadnik neke hindu ili druge religije? Njega ne napadaju? Ili je to rezervisano samo za Isusovu pastvu?
I don't get it!
Da li je ko preslusao audio, navodnog, egzorcizma koje je obavljeno u Rusiji?

#8
Terrigena wrote:Da li je ko preslusao audio, navodnog, egzorcizma koje je obavljeno u Rusiji?


Znam samo da je u Vatikanu egzorcizam sve popularniji. Prije 15 godina bilo ih je jedan-tri a sad ih školuje par deset stotina.
The Order concerns itself with Hermeticism in the Atlantic/Lemurian tradition; and with the practise of "initiatic dreaming" in the Owayssi sufi tradition; and with the study of revolutionary theory and praxis in Hashashin history. The Order follows a principle which might be called "anarcho-monarchism", and considers each of its devotees as a "Pretender to the throne of an Imaginal Sumer".

#9
A ne, ne, ne pali anđeli ti nisu isto što i demoni. Oni su malo suptilniji.
To bi trebalo nekog demonologa zamoliti da nam malo pojasni.


Zaboravih da se ogradim, ali mislim da sam naglasio da govorim o stanovištu hrišćana, iz njihovog ugla pali anđeli jesu demoni.
Sve ostalo što će reći neki 'demonolog' je ništa drugo do malo tematizovano poznavanje svetske mitologije, ništa više.
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#10
Zapravo biblija jasno pravi razliku medju demonima i palim sotoninim andjelima.
Demoni su zveri iz pakla kojima vlada sotona,pali andjeli se spominju samo na jednom mestu koliko je meni poznato i to u otkrovenju i to je ona 'trecina neba' koja je stala na sotoninu stranu.

#11
Onda moras posedovati neku predispoziciju za demonske ili paliandjeoske nasrtaje, ne?
Po nekoj logici, takvi entiteti bi trebali napadati hriscanske duse? Sta se desava ukoliko je neki ''zaposednuti'' pripadnik neke hindu ili druge religije? Njega ne napadaju? Ili je to rezervisano samo za Isusovu pastvu?
I don't get it!


Takozvani demoni su univerzalna pojava u svim glavnim svetskim religijama. Seti se samo kako je Mara "iskusavao" Budu, da se izrazim hriscanskim terminom, kada je ovaj sedeo ispod Bodi drveta. I u tibetanskom budizmu spominje se odredjena vrsta demona koja "napada" ljude na duhovnom putu.
fejk it til ju mejk it

#12
Demoni su uglavnom zli tako da ljudi misle da samo demoni ulaze u ljudska tijela ali to nevjerujem da je istina.
"Do what thou wilt shal be the whole of the Law." - Al. I. 40.
"Love is the law, love under will" - Al I. 57.
"There is no god but man." - OZ
"Pred njim će popadati divljaci, i neprijatelji njegovi prah će lizati."- 2 Sam. 22:45

#13
Demone treba gledati iskljucivo kao delove licnosti koje je tesko kontrolisati, sto ne mora da znaci da su sami po sebi zli, barem ne svi. Pogotovo, sto je zaposednutost veoma slicna invokaciji odredjenog boga ili boginje i njihove generalne benignosti i uticaja na "domacinja", ali ne tako slicna kao (predpostavljam) odredjenim demonom u klasicnom negativnom kontekstu. Uporedimo samo za primer Freyu i Lilit, dva arheotipa vezana za covekovu sexualnost. Zaposednutost svakim ponaosob od ova dva entiteta nosio bi sa sobom potpuno drugacije posledice. Jedan bi gradio licost, dok bi drugi sigurno razgradjivao. Medjutim, koliko sam ja uspeo da shvatim iz prica drugih ljudi i onoga sto je napisano o opsednutosti je da iskljucivo imamo demonski duh koji se manifestuje kroz bes, mrznju i izrazeno animalno ponasanje. Jedan jako zanimljiv detalj (pritom ja nisam hriscanjin) je da se suptilno prikriva a da se otkriva tokom liturgije i na svetim mestima, kao i odbijanje da udje u sveti objekat kao sto je crkva. Pa, su tako ljudi prisustvovali scenama da cerku otac dovede u crkvu zbog njenog cudnog ponasanja i ona usled liturgije padne u trans na opste iznenadjenje i pocne da vristi, sikce, psuje i deformisese, pa se kroz poseban ritual oslobadja od demona uz pomoc nekoliko popova obucenih u tom smeru. Ja ne iznosim tvrdnje ovim sto pisem, vec pokusavam da shvatim izvor ovog fenomena, pa ako neko ima dobre informacije, treba da ih iznese i podeli sa ostalima!

#14
himself wrote:Demone treba gledati iskljucivo kao delove licnosti koje je tesko kontrolisati, sto ne mora da znaci da su sami po sebi zli, barem ne svi. Pogotovo, sto je zaposednutost veoma slicna invokaciji odredjenog boga ili boginje i njihove generalne benignosti i uticaja na "domacinja", ali ne tako slicna kao (predpostavljam) odredjenim demonom u klasicnom negativnom kontekstu.



To su servitori.
"Do what thou wilt shal be the whole of the Law." - Al. I. 40.
"Love is the law, love under will" - Al I. 57.
"There is no god but man." - OZ
"Pred njim će popadati divljaci, i neprijatelji njegovi prah će lizati."- 2 Sam. 22:45

#15
Zapravo biblija jasno pravi razliku medju demonima i palim sotoninim andjelima.
Demoni su zveri iz pakla kojima vlada sotona,pali andjeli se spominju samo na jednom mestu koliko je meni poznato i to u otkrovenju i to je ona 'trecina neba' koja je stala na sotoninu stranu.


Svaki put kad neko napiše nešto ovakvo ja moram da upadnem i ispravljam svoje prethodne postove ili ih dopunim. :)
No, poenta je:

Kada sam govorio o hrišćanskom stavu prema demonima i palim anđelima mislio sam na stav dogme koju nudi pravoslavna crkva, te stoga dodajem da tu dogmu ne čini samo Biblija, već i dobar deo 'Svetog predanja', pa još dela 'Svetih otaca', Vaseljenski sabori, itd. itd.
Znači, nisam mislio na text iz Biblije, a da pri tom istovremeno ne mislim na tumačenje pravoslavne hrišćanske crkve.

Mada opet, uvek možemo da nastavimo temu u pravcu naših tumačenja biblijskih entiteta, zar ne?
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